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    Islamist groups unite around Israel attack, diverge on Hamas
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    https://www.isdglobal.org/digital_di...erge-on-hamas/

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    After the US abstention, prominent columnists across the Israeli media condemned Benjamin Netanyahu’s growing friction with the US president, Joe Biden.

    While Netanyahu, who has faced plummeting public approval ratings since Hamas’s surprise 7 October attack on southern Israel, has long been a target for a large section of Israel’s commentariat, the tone in some quarters after the rare US abstention in the security council bordered on derision and contempt.

    Driving the sentiment is the vivid awareness within Israeli society of the huge importance of the US-Israeli relationship in terms of financial aid, arms sales and Washington’s diplomatic support, including its frequently used veto on Israel’s behalf on the security council.



    Attempting to explain the thinking behind the US abstention on Monday, Frank Lowenstein, a former state department official who helped lead Israeli-Palestinian negotiations in 2014, told the Washington Post he believed three major factors drove the move.

    They include deep disagreements between Washington and Israel over a large-scale invasion of Rafah, the catastrophic humanitarian situation in Gaza, and Israel’s announcements of new settlements while the secretary of state, Antony Blinken, was visiting the country on Friday.

    “Biden did everything he could for months to avoid a big public fight. It reflects a very serious shift in the White House’s position towards how to manage the Israelis throughout the rest of this war. The Israelis are either going to pay attention now or we’re likely going to continue down this path.”

    In a further sign of Israel’s diplomatic difficulties, Annalena Baerbock, the minister for foreign affairs of Germany, a country historically one of Israel’s strongest supporters, said she would send a delegation to remind Israel of its obligations under international humanitarian law.



    Peter Beaumont | Tue 26 Mar 2024
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    Congratulations , that’s a remarkable propaganda film for Jew haters.
    I close my case. Good evening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shippy View Post
    Congratulations , that’s a remarkable propaganda film for Jew haters.
    I close my case. Good evening.

    Chin up Shippy
    sGZ is just being a good Islamist.



    https://jewishjournal.com/commentary...-palestinians/

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    — You overreact, shippy!
    I wonder. Did you even get past the logo?

    ISRAELISM is a documentary film created by Jewish filmmakers featuring young American Jewish people who have visited Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territories (or even served in the IDF in the OPT) and concluded that their early education misled them about the realities of Israel's handling of its 'Palestinian Question'.


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    — Not in the least!

    Your rejoinder, The Film “Israelism” Assaults the Truth and Hurts Palestinians however, is standard fare against the challenge to U.S. entrenched Jewish organizations and outlets like Jewish Journal purporting to speak for American Jews insisting:


    — a viewpoint being actively rebutted by growing
    numbers of Jewish people, worldwide.


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    UN rights expert accuses Israel of acts of genocide

    A UN human rights expert says she believes Israel has committed "acts of genocide" in Gaza.
    Francesca Albanese, the UN special rapporteur on human rights in the occupied Palestinian territories, presented her report to UN member states in Geneva on Tuesday.

    This comes amid growing international pressure on Israel to stop the war or to do much more to protect civilians.
    Ms Albanese concluded that "there are reasonable grounds to believe that the threshold indicating the commission of the crime of genocide against Palestinians as a group in Gaza has been met".
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-mid...t-68667556.amp

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    Quote Originally Posted by donkey22 View Post
    UN rights expert accuses Israel of acts of genocide

    A UN human rights expert says she believes Israel has committed "acts of genocide" in Gaza.
    Francesca Albanese, the UN special rapporteur on human rights in the occupied Palestinian territories, presented her report to UN member states in Geneva on Tuesday.

    This comes amid growing international pressure on Israel to stop the war or to do much more to protect civilians.
    Ms Albanese concluded that "there are reasonable grounds to believe that the threshold indicating the commission of the crime of genocide against Palestinians as a group in Gaza has been met".
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-mid...t-68667556.amp
    Hostages for a ceasefire.
    There are young women and children among those 134 hostages .we all know exactly what is happening to them.

    If it was my daughter held hostage by Hamas, then I would prefer her to be dead. Hamas are Scum and animals.

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    Who on this Southport forum disputes the perpetrators of October 7th atrocities are despicable and criminal? The questions are about the means of making criminals account for their crimes.

    Questions about Mr Netanyahu's government's motivations include:
    • Is Netanyahu keeping the safety of Jewish hostages in mind?

    • Or, is it the case that Mr Netanyahu with his extremist allies see October 7th as an opportunity to further their project to eliminate Palestinians from Eretz Yisrael?

    Killing tens of thousands of non-combatant civilians with excessive military force is a brutal and illiberal way to bring criminals to account! The Israeli PM's defiance of U.S. urging suggests that Mr Netanyahu's motivations (and many Israelis' with him) are not straightforward.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sandGroundZero View Post


    Who on this Southport forum disputes the perpetrators of October 7th atrocities are despicable and criminal? The questions are about the means of making criminals account for their crimes.

    Questions about Mr Netanyahu's government's motivations include:
    • Is Netanyahu keeping the safety of Jewish hostages in mind?

    • Or, is it the case that Mr Netanyahu with his extremist allies see October 7th as an opportunity to further their project to eliminate Palestinians from Eretz Yisrael?

    Killing tens of thousands of non-combatant civilians with excessive military force is a brutal and illiberal way to bring criminals to account! The Israeli PM's defiance of U.S. urging suggests that Mr Netanyahu's motivations (and many Israelis' with him) are not straightforward.

    I think that the Israeli Government now view the hostages if any are still alive as collateral damage, on the news last night a Government Minister said that all of Hamas must be eliminated and that 70% of Gazans support Hamas and they are our enemy. I think that reveals their true objectives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donkey22 View Post
    un rights expert accuses israel of acts of genocide

    a un human rights expert says she believes israel has committed "acts of genocide" in gaza.
    Francesca albanese, the un special rapporteur on human rights in the occupied palestinian territories, presented her report to un member states in geneva on tuesday.

    this comes amid growing international pressure on israel to stop the war or to do much more to protect civilians.
    Ms albanese concluded that "there are reasonable grounds to believe that the threshold indicating the commission of the crime of genocide against palestinians as a group in gaza has been met".
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-mid...t-68667556.amp

    Will you still support palestine after statehood is achieved?

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    Quote Originally Posted by donkey22 View Post
    UN rights expert accuses Israel of acts of genocide

    A UN human rights expert says she believes Israel has committed "acts of genocide" in Gaza.
    Francesca Albanese, the UN special rapporteur on human rights in the occupied Palestinian territories, presented her report to UN member states in Geneva on Tuesday.

    This comes amid growing international pressure on Israel to stop the war or to do much more to protect civilians.
    Ms Albanese concluded that "there are reasonable grounds to believe that the threshold indicating the commission of the crime of genocide against Palestinians as a group in Gaza has been met".
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-mid...t-68667556.amp

    Francesca Albanese.


    Please find another more reliable person to quote on Gaza.

    Francesca Albanese has made antisemitic comments in the past and is hardly unbiased.

    She is married to Massimiliano Calì, a World Bank official since 2012 who briefly worked at the United Nations Development Programme in support of the Palestinian Ministry of Economy in 2011.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamble View Post
    Francesca Albanese.
    Please find another more reliable person to quote on Gaza.
    Francesca Albanese has made antisemitic comments in the past and is hardly unbiased.
    She is married to Massimiliano Calì, a World Bank official since 2012 who briefly worked at the United Nations Development Programme in support of the Palestinian Ministry of Economy in 2011.
    — Hamble, you have alleged anti-Semitism and bias …
    perhaps you would be good enough to provide evidence for your allegations? [Citing her spouse won't do.]


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    Quote Originally Posted by sandGroundZero View Post
    — Hamble, you have alleged anti-Semitism and bias …
    perhaps you would be good enough to provide evidence for your allegations? [Citing her spouse won't do.]

    Look it up yourself.

    I am busy on something Local said.

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